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 PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:33 pm 

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my dad and i are looking into putting bigger rotors on the dana 44s

off hand im thinking new style dodge 1/2 ton front rotors, chevy calipers and custom caliper brackets of some sort.

i have been searching pirate and the few times it works i havent come up with anything. does anyone know of a junkyard brake upgrade for a 5 on 5.5 bp chevy spindled dana 44?

im open to suggestions and ideas

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 PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:24 pm 
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i made a thread about this on pirate in the ford section, you should be able to find it. I was told that there is a ford car with calipers that will fit in with a larger bore piston. This is for a bronco knuckle tho, so i dunno whose brake brackets you are usin.

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 PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:46 pm 

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You can use some Wilwood rotors with detachable hats. I think the hats can be purchased with different registers and you can choose the largest rotors that will fit your rims.

I would guess that they would have a rotor with the correct width to fit the Chevy caliper. Have you thought about trying to adapt the Ford dual-piston calipers that came on the 3/4-ton D44? Would that provide an upgrade? Don't know how easy it would be to make work with your combo though....


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 PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:17 pm 
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the 250s need at least a 16 inch rim and of course the different brake brackets. I doubt that they would just bolt onto your knuckes. You can get the 250 knuckles and everything else, but then you get 8 lug stuff.

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 PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:20 pm 

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we are pretty much limited to a 1" bore master cylinder so the calipers cant be any bigger than the chevy stuff or youll bury your foot in the floor before you stop. i dont want to spend shit loads of money on wilwood stuff because then ill have to run their calipers too since the disk isnt vented.

what vehicle has a 13-14" disk and a 5 on 5.5" pattern and is 1.25" thick (that is the thickness of a ford/chevy disk right?)

ideally i would like the whole setup to be available on the shelf at auto parts stores, with the exception of the caliper brackets.

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 PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:39 pm 
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I might have missed it but are you talking about front or rear? The front should be all stock stuff.

For the rear I have standard half ton ford rotors and standard half ton chevy calipers. I bought weld on brackets from Stock Car Products. They have a bracket that is set up for the Chevy caliper complete with weld nuts for the caliper bolts. I think I paid about $17 each.

http://www.stockcarproducts.com/rsusp4.htm

Makes it all shelf parts. :thumb:

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 PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:56 pm 

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mostly concerned with the fronts, once those are good then it will be easy to get the rear close.

the brakes work pretty good right now but when i want to stop i want all the wheels to lock up NOW

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 PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:07 pm 

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Ok, so if memory serves correctly, '73-'79 Lincoln Mark V rear rotors are 12 inches, maybe a hair bigger in diameter, and 1 inch thick with a 5 on 5.5. Add to this a pair of 4 piston calipers from an IFS Toyota PU, '86 and up. Suzuki guys run the toy calipers all the time with no problems with pedal feel or height.


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 PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:16 pm 

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2001 Dodge Ram rotors are 12" and in 2002 they went to the 17" rims and 13" rotors.

The only thing that I am seeing is that the big Dodge rotors run a little thin compared to a stock chevy rotor, and even to a ford rotor which many use for 5x5.5 conversions with chevy calipers.

Too thin? I dunno. I'm running chevy K10 calipers with ford f150 rotors in the rear, and they are 0.030" under the K10 rotor discard fresh out of the box but are doing fine. I think that's what Jim is running, too.

The dodge only takes it another 0.080" for the 2003 big rotors, but is about the same as the ford for the 2001 rotors.

From Napa for 2003 Dodge 1500:
Item#: TS 48880073
Price: $32.49
Attributes:
# of Bolts:5 Bolt Circle Diameter:5.5"
Discard Thickness:1.039"
Height:2.655"
Outside Diameter:13.23"
Thickness When New:1.102
Vented / Solid:Vented

From Napa for 2001 Dodge 1500 4x4:
Item#: TS 4886917
Price: $39.99
Attributes:
# of Bolts:5 Bolt Circle Diameter:5.5"
Discard Thickness:1.118"
Height:2.885"
Outside Diameter:12.11"
Thickness When New:1.18"
Vented / Solid:Vented

And finally a 1987 Chevy K10:
Item#: TS 4885608
Price: $35.49
Attributes:
# of Bolt Holes:6 Bolt Circle Diameter:5.5"
Diameter:11 55/64"
Discard Thickness:1.215"
Height:2.304"
Outside Diameter:11.86"
Thickness When New:1.285"
Vented / Solid:Vented

Well, let's add the standard 1982 F150 4x4:
Item#: TS 4885611
Price: $31.99
Attributes:
# of Bolt Holes:5 # of Bolts:5
Diameter:11 23/32"
Discard Thickness:1.12"
Height:2.704"
Outside Diameter:11.72"
Thickness When New:1.185"
Vented / Solid:Vented


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 PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:33 am 

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cool, this is good info!

thanks guys

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 PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 11:18 am 
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yes good info.

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 PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 4:11 pm 

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It seems like the disks should be pleanty big enough to stop 3500 lbs. I know it's a pain in the ass, but i really think you would benefit more from a master cylinder swap.


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 PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:55 pm 

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Elusive wrote:
It seems like the disks should be pleanty big enough to stop 3500 lbs. I know it's a pain in the ass, but i really think you would benefit more from a master cylinder swap.


thats in the works too, mazda 929. it just about bolts up...... the only thing is that its not really going to give me more power because all of the ratios are still the same, all its going to do is firm up the pedal and possible loose some power in the mean time.


one thing at a time though....... it needs to move under its own power first :lol:

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 PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:03 pm 

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What brakes are you running now? With the FSJ D44, I figured you'd at least be running the stock calipers up front, which are the same as a chebby k10.


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 PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:26 pm 

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JohnnyJ wrote:
What brakes are you running now? With the FSJ D44, I figured you'd at least be running the stock calipers up front, which are the same as a chebby k10.


76ish chevy single piston calipers with ford 1/2 ton rotors on the front.

tracker front disks and calipers in the rear.

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 PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:47 am 
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I have a set of axles from a 2004-2005 Ram 3500 (925/1150) if you want to come eyeball them.

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